March 12th, 2014

Jobbik leader unwelcome in Romania, says PM Ponta amid local media focus on “Hungarian extremist groups”

An official procedure to declare radical nationalist Jobbik leader Gabor Vona persona non grata in Romania could start as soon as on Wednesday, once President Traian Basescu approves a Romanian interior ministry proposal, Romania’s Prime Minster Victor Ponta said.
Ponta said after a cabinet meeting that the ministry had prepared the necessary documents on Tuesday.

Basescu requested the Romanian government and parliament on Tuesday to ban Jobbik officials and party members from entering Romania after a protest for Szekler autonomy in Targu Mures on the day before.

Romanian media reports highlighted the rowdy behavior of “Hungarian extremist groups” at the Day of Szekler Freedom events. According to the reports, Vona and several representatives of the far-right Sixty-Four Counties Youth Movement and “the Hungarian Guard which is banned in Hungary” were present and the latter was responsible for clashes with the gendarmerie.

In reply to Basescu, Ponta on Wednesday said that Romania cannot prevent members of a particular party who are EU citizens from entering Romania, but it can ban a particular person.

Jobbik said Basescu’s campaign to drive out Vona was an effort to deter attention away from the demonstration’s goal and from the community’s struggle for autonomy. Istvan Szavay, a Jobbik spokesman, told MTI that it was “outrageous” that the only message the Romanian political leadership had expressed about the Day of Szekler Freedom was the ban on Vona.

Vona and Szavay both participated at the demonstration on Monday.

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  • Aloof

    I guess Vona is trying scarf some of Orban’s Romanian votes. Must be a race or a bet between Vona and Kover who can get the most persona non gratas.
    The hamster wheel rolls on…

    • szebbjovot

      It seems that you are in a race with a few other posters on this website to see who out of you lot will be the first persona non grata in Hungary.

      • Aloof

        Dazzling…

      • Traian

        if a Hungarian like Aloof is objective you call him ass licker of the Romanian “nationalists” who are far from you! they are more like patriots and objective, you’re mean, subjective, big hater, an animal in one word.. God have mercy on your soul!

  • Wangchuck

    I’m guessing this is related to the prickly Transcarpathia irredentist issue?

    • szebbjovot

      You mean Transylvania?

      • seinean

        Make it Transdniestria and you’re spot on. Or was it Transcaucasia ?

  • szebbjovot

    So what did Vona do?

    • seinean

      Apparently what he did on the Romanian soil will not be enough for him to be declared persona non grata. He can come and go in/from Romania as he pleases. Some Jobbik members however, who were violent in their previous “confrontations” with the police/gendarmerie were declared personae non gratae and won’t be allowed to cross the border.

      • szebbjovot

        “Romanian soil”
        When did Vona visit Wallachia?

        • seinean

          Whenever he drived east from the borders of “Csonka M.”

  • szebbjovot

    It is absolutely disgusting that those primitive vlachs dare to ban Hungarians from entering Erdély….

    • Vidra

      Why isn’t the EU intervening? I thought one of the ponts of the EU was to stop cretinous nationalist politicians from refusing to recognise the cultual and political rights of minority groups.

      • szebbjovot

        “Why isn’t the EU intervening?”
        Why are you asking me? Ask “havelaar” the unofficial spokesman of Reding on this website.

        “cretinous nationalist politicians”
        Perfect description of Ponta and Basescu.

        • akasha

          aha. but not a description for those very outspoken Jobbik leaders? Such a ban applies the other way around also.

          • szebbjovot

            Unlike Romanian leaders, Jobbik has not insulted Romanians.

          • justasking

            By words, maybe not…but certainly by their actions.

            Do you really support Jobbik running around and acting like a bunch of loud mouth American bullies?

          • seinean

            They did it by words as well. Insults shouted while “marching” right in front of their houses. Insults often posted on this website as well.

          • justasking

            Hey there!!! How are you?

          • seinean

            Hi. I’m well. I hope you’re well too.

          • justasking

            I am actually.

            My son has a bad ear infection, and it took almost 2 hours at the pharmacy to get his meds this morning. The pharmacist pissed me off so badly, I had to find away to release that anger…I chose Aloof. :D

          • seinean

            Well, better here in the Virtual World than in Real Life…
            Sorry to hear about your son. I hope he’ll be well soon.

          • justasking

            Oh, he’s a tough cookie my boyo.
            Hey…did you all hear about that Malaysian plane that disappeared?

          • seinean

            Sure. Mass-Media is keeping us posted as well.

          • justasking

            The message we’re getting here…the plane was possibly hijacked.

          • szebbjovot

            The message I am getting is that nobody has a clue.
            People thought that the guys on the missing passports were terrorists, but turned out to be Iranian migrants with no links to terrorist groups.

          • justasking

            ‘The message I am getting is that nobody has a clue’
            Exactly…hence all these ‘theories!! Hell, you can’t write this shit in Hollywood!

          • szebbjovot

            Looking at the latest news… it seems that it has been found through satelites.

          • justasking

            I heard China may have found some debris.

          • szebbjovot

            “acting like a bunch of loud mouth American bullies?”

            Example?

            Is peacefully protesting and carrying Székely flag “loud mouth bullying”?

            And who cares if the rumanians are insulted, Transylvania is Hungary, therefore we will come as we please.

          • seinean

            “who cares if the rumanians are insulted” … Well, if that’s the spirit then who will ever care how and what you and your kin feel ?

          • szebbjovot

            The biggest insult was the fact that OUR Transylvania was given to rumanians.

            On November 11, 1919, the American representative of the Allied mission to Hungary, General Harry Hill Bandholtz wrote in his Diary:“It is impossible to conceive such national depravity as those miserable “Latins” of Southeast Europe are displaying”.

            Having spent six months in Hungary, General Bandholtz was impressed by the Hungarians. Before his departure he concluded in his Diary:
            “Personally I came here rather inclined to condone or extenuate much of the Roumanian procedure, but their outrageous conduct in violation of all international law, decency, and humane considerations, has made me become an advocate of the Hungarian cause. Turning over portions of Hungary with its civilized and refined population will be like turning over Texas and California to
            the Mexicans. The great Powers of the Allies should hang their heads in shame for what they allowed to take place in this country after an armistice”

          • Aloof

            “The biggest insult was the fact that OUR Transylvania was given to Rumanians.”
            No you moron, the biggest insult is that you LOST it to Romanians.

          • szebbjovot

            It was GIVEN to Rumanians.

          • Aloof

            So go take it back and shut up.

          • szebbjovot

            “So go take it back and shut up.”
            That was the plan… we got quite close but then WW2 ended slightly differently than we expected/hoped.

          • seinean

            An that is because people with your mentality you will allways be the losers

          • seinean

            We took it. Because we were the majority and because we were on the winning side in WWI.

          • szebbjovot

            If you werent given the green light by outside powers you would not have taken anything.

          • seinean

            Well, we managed to better pick our friends than you. Green light or not it is then when Austria-Hungary ceased to be a “Power”… not that some of the people still around managed to comprehend that…

          • http://politicsinhungary.wordpress.com/ Leto مؤدّب

            For the record, the French gave it to you. Period.

          • seinean

            Like you get to set the “periods”…

          • justasking

            Now now seinean, you know better than that….stick to the facts.

          • seinean

            “Your” Transylvania ? You never ever even set a step in the land and you pretend to have rights on it ? All you “know” is what you read in your biased books. Come and see how it is and talk to the people and then talk.

          • seinean

            “Civilized and refined”… Who Vona Gabor and the Jobikkos ? Magyar Garda ? Rongyos Gárda ? Szá ?lasi’s Arrow Cross ?

          • szebbjovot

            Maniu Guards, Antonescu, Noua Dreapta, Codreanu, Odessa Massacre, Iasi pogrom, Legionaires pogrom, Horia Sima, Garda de Fier, Avram Iancu, need I go on?

          • seinean

            The “civilized and refined” Vona, Jobbik party members and the Magyar Garda live now “striving” to build a szebb jovot for others even agains their will. But – as a Slovakian – you wouldn’t know that – would you mozgalom boy ?

          • seinean

            If somebody still does not know who Jobbik is:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P05cHijUOTo

          • Traian

            a short period, in rest the massacres of Horthy’s Army? Jobbik after 100 years? massacres of the Hungarians hundreds of years in Transylvania over the majoritary Romanian population?

          • szebbjovot

            Tiganescu please spare me of your drivel. Transylvania is Hungary and you know it.

          • Traian

            Hungary had important, major in Transylvania, but the Romanians have been always majoritary, even after you moved foreigners there. always at least 65%!

          • Traian

            he’s an animal!

          • justasking

            Well, not really…I believe that one gets more flies with honey, than they do with vinegar. That’s just my opinion though, based on facts. :D

          • Aloof

            There you go again with Americans. Could you please try and segregate Americans from the American Government?
            From what I see the governments in virtually every country in the world are doing a piss poor job serving their citizens.
            Most Americans are incredibly cool, smart, fun and friendly people.

          • justasking

            Sure…as soon as you separate Hungarians from the Hungarian Government, and not lump us all into one?
            Can you do that you big dumb American?

          • Aloof

            I don’t know honey, you’re Canadian Hungarian I’m American Hungarian. I also know UK Hungarians, German Hungarians, Italian Hungarians, Israeli Hungarians, Macedonian Hungarians, Austrian Hungarians, Swedish Hungarians, Dutch Hungarian, Spanish Hunarians, Potrugese Hungarians, Egytian Hungarians, Lebanese Hungarians, etc… etc… but the only jerk off Hungarians I know….

          • justasking

            Son, really…Lebanese Hungarians?

          • Aloof

            Yup… I know 3 Hungarian women that married Lebanese guys during the 18 years I LIVED in Hungary.
            Really beautiful kids too…

          • justasking

            Don’t tell me…the guys are all hairdressers and their normally dark brown haired wives, have been coloured blond?

          • Aloof

            No the guys all own beach resorts there. You’re watching too much TV. Go to Lebanon, it’s more beautiful than you think.

          • justasking

            ‘You’re watching too much TV’

            No, this information is based on FACTS…I know a lot of Lebanese that happen to live in my fair city. They came out (from Lebanon to Canada) during the 70′s and 80′s.

          • Aloof

            My next door neighbor and one of my best friends was Lebanese and his family came to the USA in the 40s. There were a lot of Lebanese and Syrians in our neighborhood and it was because of religious persecution. They were Maronites.

          • justasking

            ‘They were Maronites.’

            That is so weird, our neighbors (Lebanese) were as well…but they came out in the late 70′s.

            I always thought it odd, that the entire family (kids and cousins, not the parents) all became hairdressers, today owning high-end salons across my fair city.

            I remember asking Chaker once…’What’s up with all the hairdressers in your family?’ He said…’When we came to Canada, the only other option was becoming a taxi driver’

          • Aloof

            In my hometown in the 60s many owned junkyards, sold cars or had some of the best restaurants in town.

          • Justanobservation

            Yet she is the hypocrite that lectures people on generalizations of ethnic groups. HAHAHAHAHA! What a piece of work!

          • Hungarian

            Yo double chinned new girl on the block with a fake blonde photo from the 1980s.

            Picking fights all over you Hungarian hater Ferengi trash?

            Go flip a burger to your overweight husband who hasn’t got it up for ya since 1999.

          • szebbjovot

            You know whats really offensive? The way this primitive vlach tribe disprespects and ruins Hungarys milienial heritage in Transylvania, and our people ther.e

          • justasking

            I’m not disagreeing with you…just their approach.

          • seinean

            You know what’s really offensive? The way primitive people who know next to nothing about a group of people make self-enabling “judgments”

          • szebbjovot

            I know more than I need to know about you vlachs.

          • justasking

            Actually szeb, seinean is one of the good guys.

          • szebbjovot

            ” seinean is one of the good guys.”
            I doubt it.

          • Hungarian

            I apologize for his stupidity.
            Never mind him.

            We need cool heads and mutual respect to resolve outstanding issues.

            Unfortunatelly the recent Romanian government action to further marginalize the Hungarian minority, is not taking things to the right direction.

            What you guys see in Vona is just the side effects of that.

          • szebbjovot

            Continue sucking up to your coach buddy, asshole. You are the biggest retard on here, the son of a bitch commie loving whore from Japan.

          • Hungarian

            Just learn to shut up sometimes collaborator trash.
            You manage to worsen the situation every time you open your little fucking feeding hole.

          • szebbjovot

            You have the nerve to call ME a collaborator while sticking your head up a Rumanian nationalists ass?

            I bet you attended those Arrow Cross-Iron Guard brotherhood rallys, that must be your idea of helping Hungarians.. Cretin :D

          • Hungarian

            Go get some sleep you model Slovakian collaborator who is a Slovakian citizen living in Slovakia, quietly acknowledging Slovakan authority every day in his life!

          • szebbjovot

            Good night, American citizen living in Japan while defending Biszku and sucking up to Rumanian nazis.

          • Hungarian

            Good night docile bambi, collaborator Slovakian citizen.

          • Traian

            we barely have extremists in Romania! Noua Dreapta isn’t winning anything.

          • Traian

            not, you are a retard, why are you offending everyone?

          • seinean

            What recent “action” of the Romanian government “further marginalize the Hungarian minority” ? I’m certain that Kelemen Hunor, as of now deputy prime minister and Minister of Culture and National Heritage in the Government of Romania would be interested as well. Please tell what it is .

          • Hungarian

            I am referring here to the planning of reorganizing voting districts, that will put Hungarian majority areas into Hungarian minority.

            Your thoughts on that?

          • seinean

            First: planning and making public proposals for debate are not “actions”.

            Second: it is not the “voting districts” that those plans intend to reorganize. They intend to add a layer of jurisdiction and local management on top of the existing ones by introducing “regions” on top of “judete/megye”
            Third: As long as UDMR/RMDSZ is part of the government this won’t happen. IMO it was already negotiated without any public leaks. It will be like nobody will ever mention that for the time being. Other issues were negotiated as well. One will be the display of the Szekely Flag on public buildings in Harghita and Covasna. Another one might be a state finaced Hungaian language only university in Cluj or Targu Mures. It depends on how stable this government will be.
            My personal thought – since two “judete” can constitute a region in Dobrogea , two others (Covasna/ Harghita) may as well constitute another one in order to accommodate people’s wishes.

          • Hungarian

            Sounds good.
            When do you think they can regain autonomy?

          • seinean

            You mean regain autonomy for the Székelyföld ? The one lost with the Ausgleich in 1867 ? Or the pseudo-autonomy granted by the communist regime under Kremlin pressure between 1952 and 1968 ?

            I’m afraid my crystal ball is quite fuzzy when I ponder this issue…

            First both parts would have to change a consistent part of their way of thinking in order to even get into an autonomy negotiating mentality.

            Second – the “real” extent of Székelyföld must be negociated and accepted by both parts.
            Third – the political power/economic related content of the autonomy will have to be negotiated and accepted by both parts “en masse”.
            It is a long road ahead. It will be taken only if there is no war and if the economic situation improves.

          • Hungarian

            Again sound good.
            I am a firm believer in a political solution here.
            We fought each other long enough.
            Many good ppl had to die so unnecessary on both side.

            I am glad that there are counterparts thinking the same on the other side…

          • Aloof

            Nobody is fucking with the people that live there more than jerk offs like YOU, Vona, Orban, Kover and all the other morons that go down there for a day and go back to Hungary.
            Hate to tell you AGAIN bud, all the old folks are dying off and all the young are LEAVING as soon as they because of the Romanians and the jerk offs like YOU, Vona, Orban, Kover and company.
            The kids want their OWN life not YOURS.

          • szebbjovot

            Get anger management lessons, psycho.

          • Aloof

            Why? It’s just reality Slovakian. You’re the one that fears it and can’t deal with it. It’s your anger not mine.

          • szebbjovot

            “Slovakian”

            Do you call your granny from Tornalja Slovakian as well?

          • Aloof

            She’s dead. She’s the Lord’s now.

          • szebbjovot

            Do you think she would have appreciated if you called her Slovakian?

            Think about your statements, since you claim to have family from there.

          • Aloof

            She was 4 years old when our family sent her to the USA and she died before it was Slovakia. So it’s a meaningless question.

          • justasking

            I’ll agree with you here, that shouldn’t be going on and if it is…punish swiftly and accordingly.

            That also goes if Romanian heritage monuments are attacked as well.

          • Traian

            I wish you to go and live in other countries where the rights of the Hungarians aren’t respected! you have rights, schools in Hungarians, televisions, newspapers, everything..

          • DoubleH63

            Did you read this in Toronto Star?

          • justasking

            No you goof…that would be Olga! :D

          • DoubleH63

            Well, I bet she let’s you know about the “truth” when she finds it in there.

          • justasking

            Hey…I give her a ‘A’ for effort!!!

          • DoubleH63

            I do too. After all she is an expert of Jobbik Studies. I know it does not pay as good as being an expert of Holohoax Studies but we can’t all be Deborah, can we?

          • justasking

            Always taking the piss…eh Double? :D

          • DoubleH63

            Yeah, I know…

          • akasha

            so turning their unauthorized march into a fight with local authorities, throwing rocks, etc and shouting “foreigners go home” etc is not insulting? they insulted the whole nation.

          • justasking

            Yeah, but pretending that your Hungarian minority does not have a historical claim to Erdély, consciously provoking, prodding and humiliating said group, hardly generates a warm and fuzzy feeling towards your ‘whole nation’.

          • seinean

            ja – who / when “consciously provoking, prodding and humiliating said group” of Jobbik and Magyar Garda supporters today in Targu Mures/Marosvasarhely ?

          • justasking

            I was referring to the people LIVING in Transylvania.

          • seinean

            The incidents were not provoked by people living in Transylvania but by Jobbik supporters bussed over from Hungary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH3BxkAtJV8

          • seinean

            A “hussar” walking trough the city with a real sword in hand… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6JkgIkcgnk

          • justasking

            Huh…cool uniform!

          • seinean

            Cool. But if you’re an Romanian going home from work in the evening and meeting this cool guy with his sword on the streets of your hometown it might not be so pleasant.

          • justasking

            So ask yourself…why would they feel the need to put one on in the first place?

          • seinean

            Because his day-work is in a circus band maybe? …. Just kidding…

          • justasking

            ‘Because his day-work is in a circus band maybe’

            That could be one theory…care to try for another one?

            PS: Yes I know your kidding…and I would only put up with that from you.

          • seinean

            He put on his hussar uniform to show what a proud Magyar he is…

          • justasking

            Exactly…he wasn’t trying to be aggressive.

            Unfortunately, those ‘ethnic Romanian going home from work in the evening and meeting this cool guy with his sword on the streets of your hometown’ misinterpreted, his intention.

            Good grief, you Romanians are paranoid!!! You all owe him an apology!

          • justasking

            They are just stirring up the resentment and anger, that is already bubbling at the surface.

          • szebbjovot

            Just be glad we are not like the Albanians.

          • seinean

            Then we might have been like the Serbs. That’s not nice.

          • szebbjovot

            You are very similar though, the same balkan ultrachauvinist mentality.

          • justasking

            Is this your version of honey?

          • seinean

            Well you are simply wrong.

          • szebbjovot

            Not at all.

          • Traian

            Romania has a lot different mentality than Serbia and Bulgaria! you also borrowed a bit from the Balkans as mentality, as us, but this is not the mentality of both countries.

          • akasha

            the “consciously provoking, prodding and humiliating” part is subject for debate. should i get from your answer that jobbik is a representative for the oppressed and humiliated hungarian minority in Romania? then I pity them…

          • justasking

            Somebody has got to fill the void…

          • Hungarian

            Guys, guys… What are we going to solve here going after Vona, or each other?

            Fact is that there is a large Hungarian community trying hard to preserve its existence, and that ceaucescu took away their autonomy.

          • DoubleH63

            Yes, yes it was all Jobbik was not it. no one else marched ere but Jobbik members, is that it, szőröstalpú oláh?

          • akasha

            the amount of pointlessness and sheer idiocy in your 2-sentenced comment is too damn high…

            calling me “szőröstalpú oláh” makes your argument doesn’t it? feeling smarter yet? because i feel my iq is gonna drop if I talk to you..

            I will not use insults, because I believe only a certain type of people use that online, people not possessing very flattering qualities. However, I do believe the answer should match the question; so a retarded question, should be answered in the same manner.

            You were right. not only the jobbik was in the march, but also Ponta!!! so he immediately started bitching about them, to cover his own guilt. he thinks he’s smart that fucker, smart enough to fool you hungarians…he was wrong. You are on his trails.

          • Guru

            “I will not use insults, because I believe only a certain type of people use that online, people not possessing very flattering qualities.”
            +
            “because i feel my iq is gonna drop if I talk to you”

            Haha nice try. You’re no better than the rest of the forum in that aspect. I remember how everyone starts out saying they won’t insult anyone etc, but somehow nobody manages to go past a week without doing that.

          • akasha

            Wow!!
            you know me for 3 replies, yet you make assumptions about me.

            Where’s the insult in that? It’s my iq that’s gonna drop..

            However, I won’t question your judgment over people on the forum. says “Guru” as your nickname; can’t challenge that.

          • Guru

            It’s obviously an insult. If I tell you I’m going to become more stupid by talking to you, it implies that what you have to say makes me more stupid.

          • Traian

            65% were Romanians in Transilvania even after the Hungarians moved some foreigners. so what historical claim do you have if you were a minority? you should respect the treaty because Transilvania is not independent. I can appreciate your contribution there but we can’t talk about a Hungarian majority in Transylvania. ever!

          • justasking

            ‘so what historical claim do you have if you were a minority?’

            Considering a person can pull out and see defined boarders (that Erdély was apart of the Hungary) on any ancient/historical maps…that would give pause to ‘historical claim’…do you think?

            Can Romania show provide any such evidence?

          • Traian

            no? did Gabor say he was there with the Hungarian Guard or not? so agitating spirits isn’t an insult?

          • Guru

            Jobbik didn’t ban Basescu or Ponta – or any Romanian party for that matter – from entering Hungary.

          • Aloof

            Jobbik doesn’t have the authority to do it anyway.

          • Guru

            It doesn’t, but that doesn’t change the fact that what akasha said makes no sense

          • akasha

            which part makes no sense? the part where I more or less say, Jobbik came on the territory of a country and behaved like invading huns, to the outrage of the general population, and as such, they got a reaction in return? of course you can argue freedom of expression blabla, but there are limits to that. legal ones, cultural ones; you break that, suffer the consequences.

          • Guru

            That would all fly if Romania wasn’t in the European Union. According to EU law, just because a politician says unfavorable things, his opponents can’t bar him from entering a member state.

          • Traian

            stop manipulating, they didn’t just “say”! their bans came after reports.

          • Guru

            Reports of Jobbik doint what exactly, other than “saying”?

          • akasha

            well did Basescu or Ponta enter Hungary and try to rally up Romanian nationalistic propaganda and in one way or another, try to insult the local population?
            I am not defending them, it’s not that I like them or anything, but given the reaction the romanian population had after jobbik’s visit, they reacted as well. it simply caused outrage. but let’s just forget about it..

          • Traian

            why did the Romanians whistle your anthem at Romania-Hungary? it was a simple reaction after what happened.

          • akasha

            I don’t know. why don’t you ask them?

        • Traian

          Ponta is populist, Basescu is very fair. nationalist is Corneliu Vadim-Tudor but we didn’t vote him here! Vadim-Tudor was trendy in Romania long time ago… trust me Gabor and even Orban are worse than any of these two! and Vadim-Tudor is considered here crazy like Becali.

      • Traian

        because we are crying on the Romanian media, not in Europe as the Hungarians! and the Europeans are also busy with Ukraine.

    • Aloof

      Oh come on Slovakian, it’s a quarterly ritual for Fidesz or Jobbik to go down to Transylvania to irritate Romania and you know it. Hardly the first time Vona has pissed off Romania and who can forget mighty midget snot bag Kover trying to shove NAZI Nyirő’s ashes down their throat not to mention Viktor Orban eliminating bi-lateral visits between Bucharest-Budapest in 2010.
      Romania wanted to make Vona person non grata in August 2013 after his drivel at the summer camp of Hungarian Youth of Transylvania.
      http://www.jobbik.com/g%C3%A1bor_vona_writes_open_letter_romanian_politicians
      Hungary since Fidesz and Jobbik got on the horse are despised by all her neighbors and basically the rest of the EU because of the ignorant and arrogant way they conduct themselves whenever they step outside of Hungary. It’s more than embarrassing, it’s counterproductive.
      I guess you forget Kover’s big mouth in Slovakia a couple of years ago or when Orban tried to block Slovakia’s entrance into NATO unless or until the Hungarian Parliament voted on it.
      I have no idea how these arrogant, ignorant, unsophisticated, uncouth and dumb ass country bumpkin morons in Fidesz and Jobbik get the idea that how this kind of behavior is actually going to accomplish anything much less produce a positive result. And you’re certainly not doing a damn thing for the minorities that live there while Vona, Kover and Orban go home after stirring their shit.

      • szebbjovot

        Typical aloof rant, its all the fault of Jobbik and Fidesz, yet you have not dared to criticize the government of Slovakia or Romania. It’s obvious whose side you are on.

        By the way in my opinion the government is far too lenient and friendly with our neighbours.

        • Aloof

          You’re a friggin’ idiot whose blinded by his own arrogance and ignorance. Sorry pal, you’ll have to sort that out by yourself.
          But where I come from if you keep poking me in the chest and provoking me you’re going to get walloped upside the head.

          • justasking

            ‘But where I come from if you keep poking me in the chest …’

            Really? So, what ‘poking and provoking’ did the Iraqi’s or the Nicaraguans for that matter, do to deserve ‘getting walloped upside the head’ by you loud mouth dumb Americans?

          • Aloof

            Oh shut up you annoying Canadian housewife. Go pick up the kids or a milk a cow or whatever the hell else you do in western Canada.
            Can’t get one comment in without bashing America right? I bash my country all the time and very regularly lately.
            But “Hungarians,” especially your flavor, are incapable of it.
            If you can tell me the way that Fidesz and Jobbik conduct themselves outside of Hungary is not downright embarrassing then you’re more of an idiot than the Slovakian.

          • justasking

            But, but…what did I say? Why are you being so aggressive?

            I was simply asking a question, trying to figure how things are done ‘where you come from’.

            You brought it up….

          • Aloof

            No… you were not asking a question and you know it.

          • justasking

            Hey, what’s good for the goose….

          • Aloof

            Well I don’t know what’s good for the goose but I certainly know what the gander likes.

          • justasking

            I’m really not interested in hearing about your sexual fetishes…so if you please, try and stick to one of the numerous off topics that you keep bringing up.

          • Aloof

            Sorry… you walked right into it.

          • justasking

            Again, is that your opinion based on ‘facts’?

          • Aloof

            From a gander’s point of view you dove.

          • justasking

            Oh, stop flirting and focus on the topic at hand…or any other one you might want to introduce!

          • Aloof

            Flirting? Why would I flirt with hamburger from Canada when I have real Hungarian prime rib at home? Don’t flatter yourself darlin’.

          • justasking

            ***Say following with a French accent***

            Your lips say no, no…but your eyes say yes, yes…

          • Aloof

            I’m not like Palin, I can’t see western Canada from my backyard.

          • justasking

            She saw Western Canada from her backyard? I thought it was Russia.

          • DoubleH63

            “western Canada”
            Is this another fact, pizza delivery boy?

          • justasking

            Out of all his ‘facts’, that one is an accurate one…

          • szebbjovot

            Now now punk, you are probably the most arrogant member here, and that combined with severe anger management issues results in one ugly poster.

          • Aloof

            Tell me one thing in comment about my Vona that isn’t true Slovakian.
            BTW… tell me why Vona doesn’t take his group of merry little men and pull their arrogance in Serbia, Slovakia or the Ukraine?
            We already know the answer don’t we?…punk.

          • justasking

            ‘Tell me one thing in comment about my Vona that isn’t true Slovakian’

            Uhhh…that it’s your OPINION and nothing more?

          • Aloof

            Well no… my opinions are always based on facts. Now you try… what part of the facts that I presented are you saying aren’t facts?

          • justasking

            ‘Well no… my opinions are always based on facts’

            Really?

            Like that the vandalism done to the monument, was in response to those freedom fighters killed in 1939..those ‘facts’? Or that the US and Europe, can provide 800 million men and women to face off with Putin over Crimea..those ‘facts’?

            Are you really going to force me to continue?

          • Aloof

            Well yeah of course I am!

          • DoubleH63

            Well, than I guess I keep forcing you on your exclusion “fact”.
            Is it another “fact” you are proud of pinko?

          • szebbjovot

            “my opinions are always based on facts”
            hahahah :D

          • DoubleH63

            “my opinions are always based on facts”
            Like the one you stated about excluding duel citizens from the Hungarian Parliament by Jobbik, eh stupid?

          • Aloof

            Hungarian dual citizens have to duel to get into Parliament? Wow! I must admit a novel concept Tex.

          • szebbjovot

            You must have missed the bit when Jobbik went to
            Dunaszerdahely…. you are an idiot.

          • DoubleH63

            Are you sure you are Aloof and not American Jew in Budapest under a new name?

          • Aloof

            Jesus… don’t you ever get tired of yourself Tex? You may be the most boring and ignorant person I ever met. I’d love to see the hovel you creep around in.

        • Traian

          how come you hate the Slovaks and the Romanians but they don’t hate you?

      • justasking

        I have no idea how these arrogant, ignorant, unsophisticated, uncouth and dumb ass country bumpkin morons in the US GOVERNMENT get the idea that how this kind of behavior is actually going to accomplish anything much less produce a positive result.

        See how that works?

        • Aloof

          Wow! You’re on a real in denial “Hungarian” anti-American roll tonight baby! Get it all out…

          • justasking

            I’m not anti-American…what makes you think that? Is not all I’m saying, based on ‘facts’?

          • Aloof

            Well sure you’re anti-American! That cat has been out of the bag for a LONG time darling. The bag is busted and you’re never going to find the cat.

          • justasking

            Are not all of my comments based on FACTS? Just because I feel the need to share them, does not make me anti-American. :)

      • DoubleH63

        “NAZI Nyirő”
        And you try to feed everyone on this site about your Hungarian family… You are a Jew as much as a Jew can be fag fuck.

        • Hungarian

          I may borrow that line and use it more often in conversation;)

      • DoubleH63

        “And you’re certainly not doing a damn thing for the minorities that live there while Vona, Kover and Orban go home after stirring their shit.”
        You sound like an MSZP moron. Are you sure you are an American moron?

        • Aloof

          Are you sure you’re Hungarian Tex? You seem to have grown some deep roots in my country.

          • Justanobservation

            Actually I think he is a French Hungarian with an obsession with phallic objects.

  • MagyarViking

    Well, Nameshifter Vona, with entourage, can always pop over to Crimea over the coming week-end and join all the other fascist and Neo-Nazi parties Putin has invited as ‘Referendum Monitors’…
    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/krim-referendum-front-national-fpoe-und-lega-nord-sind-eingeladen-a-958334.html

    “Hamburg/Simferopol – Moskau will dem Referendum über einen Beitritt der Krim am kommenden Sonntag internationale Legitimität verschaffen. Dafür hat Russland ausländische Beobachter auf die Halbinsel eingeladen. Vertreter mehrerer rechtsextremer Parteien in Europa sollen die Abstimmung überwachen.

    Unter anderem gingen Einladungen beim französischen Front National(FN), der österreichischen FPÖ, der italienischen Lega Nord sowie der belgischen Partei Vlaams Belang ein. FN-Chefin Marine Le Pen sagte am Mittwoch, ihre Partei habe noch nicht entschieden, ob sie dem Aufruf folgen werde. Prinzipiell begrüßte sie jedoch die Einladung. Je mehr Beobachter dabei seien, desto besser seien die Garantien für eine korrekte Abwicklung des Referendums, sagte Le Pen.”

    Yeah, Putin knows where he has his support in Europe…hence Putin is running this ad campaign in Crimea…so everyone feels at home, even ‘leto’ has a choice

    • DoubleH63

      Get lost with your stupid Crimea bs. Go to the appropriate thread. Or even better… explain us again about that illegal homosexuality lie in Hungary you pulled out of your ass.
      [Btw how many more times your favorites going to shift there name before election?]

      • MagyarViking

        “explain us again about that illegal homosexuality lie in Hungary you pulled out of your ass”
        Ehh, I think I missed that one, so pls explain…

        So you are are also a pro-Putin/Communist guy?
        You just love to return to the old Kadar-time, that you never ever fled from, but was sent out on a mission to spy on the local Hungarian community in the US…and now you have a task and someone to report to again, finally

    • szatmari1 .

      What a bunch of little children with your pathetic personal insults, grow up idiots.
      We all know why Vona and Jobbik are there…to provoke and speed up the inevitable.

  • Transcender

    Jobbik is stupid ! they will increase the tensons between Hungary and Romania !
    I dont want to see again the romanian army in Budapest !
    Please stop this !!!

    • Traian

      stupid joke!

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