February 6th, 2015

BBJ: Editors of Simicska’s media group quit after tycoon’s threat of “media war” against gov’t

Citing “reasons of conscience” the leaders of Magyar Nemzet, MNO, HírTV and Lánchíd radio have all resigned effective immediately, Hungarian online daily mno.hu reported in a press release issued this afternoon. All these outlets are associated with Lajos Simicska, who just threatened a “media war” with the government over the advertising tax and reacted with surprise to the resignations, index.hu reports

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  • DoubleH63

    “Bayer Zsolt egy geci. Orbán Viktor is egy geci”. 🙂

    • Simicska meg most erősen be lehet b…va. 🙂

    • Havelaar

      English please?

      • Literally “geci” is a very rude word for “semen”. Here it’s a very strong insult meaning “crook, someone who is very unfair”

      • pantanifan

        Think of two drunks in a pub, competing to find the best insults, although it’s not a literal translation (the wrong gender), you could say “Bayer is a tw*t, Orban is a tw*t” and I don’t mean twit!

        • I strongly disagree. Actually it’s not a meaningless insult. Even the word is also belongs to the strongest insults one can come up with, it does have a specific meaning, too. And that’s “a very unfair (male) person, a cheat”

          • pantanifan

            When it comes to insults and bad language, I have to bow to your superior skills 🙂

          • All right. 🙂 But the point is still that “geci” has two meanings and when it’s applied to a person then it qualifies a specific behaviour the speaker thinks the insulted one shows.

      • That translation doesn’t make sense. See my explanation below.

        • justasking

          Actually Leto…a rude word for semen IS spunk.

          • Okay, you must know better. 🙂 I looked up the also four-letter word “jizz” and that also means semen.
            The point is what the second meaning of this rude Hungarian word is.

          • justasking

            ‘Okay, you must know better.

            That is true…the word ‘spunk’ is pretty crude.

          • Yeah, but still the point is Simicska used “geci” in another meaning.

  • imri

    These editors cannot in conscience permit their journalists to criticize the government of the day? Then they are obviously totally unfit for their jobs, it’s good for them that they resigned before they were fired.

    • Your absolutely rotten ilk is now going to love Simicska in no time… He’s become a hero of media freedom among your kind since his yesterday’s interview in Népszava. 😀

      • imri

        I seriously doubt that Simicska is any kind of hero. We will not forget he is one of yours, and it was your short fat hero that made him rich with our money.

  • justasking

    If these people resigned, simply because they do not agree with the direction/decision/threat Simicska made (nothing more than an ‘I’ll show you’ pissing contest) they should resign.

    Playing tit for tat is not journalism.

    • They resigned because Simicska threatened the government with “a total media war” yesterday in MSZP’s daily Népszava. (Because Simicska’s companies will have to pay more ads tax soon.) They didn’t want to take part in that.
      That’s no “tit for tat” on their behalf, it’s integrity. Simicska himself doesn’t seem to possess much of that.

      • justasking

        Leto,
        It’s a tit for tat on Simicska’s part

        • Oh, all right, sorry. I agree.

          • justasking

            Well, I read the article that poster pantanifan uploaded, interviewing Lali…the guy lost all credibility when he call Orbi ‘geci’.

            Now a person knows the attack will be personal, rather than professional professional.

          • It sounds like he was very drunken or what.. He’s gone beserk.

          • justasking

            Whatever…still made himself look like a petty fool.

            If Orban was smart, he’d just sit back, not respond and watch the sparks fly.

          • He’s going to do exactly that.

          • MagyarViking

            Dream on, when the audience of Magyar Nemzet, MNO, HírTV and Lánchíd radio are being hit by a barrage of scoops on Fidesz’ corruption, just like how they did against MSZP six months before the election 2010, Whorban will be all but quite and still…

            On the other hand, it is a known thing that Whorban has a problem with media, as his first tenure 98-02 showed. This time he was better prepared, but Whorban is not President for Life yet

          • Vidra

            What’s going to happen to all these very senior and well-paid bosses now they’ve resigned? The new Board of Directors at MTV-3 or more overmanning of Fidesz’ spokesperson army?

          • Here’s the reaction from Fidesz on Simicska’s diatribes: ” no comment”. 😀

            vs.hu/kozelet/osszes/a-fidesz-elnokseg-mar-meg-is-beszelte-simicska-kirohanasat-0206

          • justasking

            There ya go…

          • The really funny thing is how quickly Simicska is becoming a hero among the postcommie leftlibs… 😀

          • justasking

            I think, they think, he’s gonna say/do something that’s going to ‘help’ their cause.

          • Certainly. No doubt he’s going to do some damage to Fidesz/Orbán, of course. However, as one could see from the election results and polls, that may actually help Jobbik and not them. 😮

          • justasking

            Or as someone suggested on one of the threads (could have been this one) another party will emerge from all of this.

          • Do you mean my post where I was pondering if ‘Orbi’ is just creating his own opposition? 🙂

          • justasking

            No, not yours…somebody else suggested a possible centre right party could come out of all this.

          • All right, I didn’t write that now. Though I suggested exactly this, that is Fidesz could split into two centre-of-right parties after a while, on this very site shortly after Orbán won his first supermajority back in 2010.

          • pantanifan

            I guess we don’t know what condition anyone is in when they make comments, but he did confirm that he hasn’t spoken to Orbán since last April in the first index.hu link I posted in the earlier thread, implying that all has not been well between the two for quite some time:

            “Beszélt a miniszterelnökkel a helyzetről?

            Dehogy beszéltem. Nem beszélünk már tavaly április óta. Szarok rá, hogy mit gondol.”

          • Indeed.

          • justasking

            ‘Szarok rá, hogy mit gondol.”‘

            He’s the gift that keeps giving! He sounds like a bitter mistress.

          • pantanifan

            In the link that Leto posted, he goes further still, saying it’s war and he could be bumped off (killed) as a result…

          • justasking

            Am I the only one finding this interview hilarious?

            I haven’t heard such honesty, since the last time I attended a buli in Hungary, and somebody got into the pálinka.

            He doesn’t need a filter…he needs a HEPA filter!

          • Varga

            You may find it entertaining, but it is serious, he is putting his life at risk here by taking the filters off, I hope in encourages others in Fidesz ranks to take their filters off and tell the truth once and for all.

          • justasking

            ‘ he is putting his life at risk here by taking the filters off’

            Bullshit! He’s a sore looser who let his mouth run off on him, now he’s going to pay the price.

          • Varga

            Yea, we will see what price that is. So what if he let his mouth run off? Its about time someone had enough balls to let their mouth run. He actually is not the loser here, if you haven’t noticed, he resigned, he didn’t get kicked out, and is sick of Fidesz bullshit, he is just drawing attention to the crap Fidesz pulls when they going after someone. As are others.

          • justasking

            You love grasping at straws don’t you?

          • Varga

            That is surely your MO today.

          • justasking

            Just stick with your ‘I think’ posts will ya?

          • justasking

            ‘So what if he let his mouth run off? Its about time someone had enough balls to let their mouth run’

            Not if you want to be taken seriously you don’t and defiantly not in public. He comes across as a thug to me…a loud mouthed thug.

          • Varga

            Don’t be so bitter, your starting to sound like a sore loser.

          • justasking

            Just keep talking you Lajos wanna be.

          • Varga

            I am a Laci, not a Lajos, but I couldn’t care less about your bitterness.

          • justasking

            Comprehension it is….

          • Hungarian

            The issue is not if he will be taken seriously, but rather whether the critical reporting his news media will start publishing will be taken seriously.

            The regime is about to heavily invest in media that will act as a direct conduit of Fidesz propaganda. Will Hungarians watch and believe the government media or turn to RTL, ATV, and HirTV for their information? Except for the stupid loyal 20% of so, I think the later.

          • pantanifan

            I think there is one point you might (or might not) be missing here: Simicska is one of the richest men in Hungary with huge influence and connections to Fidesz (until now). If the corruption allegations hinted at by Mr. Goodfriend (among others) are true, then he probably has a lot of knowledge that could do huge damage to the ruling party… and he also has a media empire to publish/disseminate this knowledge

          • Or he himself could be involved in that alleged corruption. 😮 Ildikó Vida is said to be his “man”. (hehe)

          • pantanifan

            I didn’t know that about Vida, but in any case in the long-term Orbán should be able to outmanouevre Simicska, but the question is how much damage Simicska can do until then (and how much dirty linen will be washed in public). I assume that Simicska will choose to publish corruption stories in which he is not involved to begin with, but if it comes to a public court case, he might just decide to spill all the beans (assuming for example the US allegations are true)…

          • Spot on.

          • justasking

            “Simicska is one of the richest men in Hungary with huge…’

            Yes, I’m well aware of that, and am quite sure that he has the potential to do allot of damage to Fidesz. That being said, I’m sure that there are people within Fidesz, who could do the same back to him.

            I can’t see him cutting his nose off to spite his face. Mind you, what I’ve read from him the past couple days, maybe he’ll do just that…maybe they’ll all go down in flames.

            I don’t know.

          • pantanifan

            “I can’t see him cutting his nose off to spite his face”

            I think he’s already done that, he is more of a businessman with political links, rather than a politician (according to one source I read, he saved Fidesz from near bankruptcy some years ago). His companies have won a huge amount of EU-sponsored tenders in Hungary in the last few years – what chances do you think they have of winning state-controlled tenders now? Having said that, I can’t see him having to claim unemployment benefit or clearing snow as part of the public works scheme 🙂

          • justasking

            ‘I can’t see him having to claim unemployment benefit or clearing snow as part of the public works scheme :-)’
            I just hope ‘what comes around goes around’ to all involved…

          • justasking

            I don’t know what to say…other than I’m shocked.

          • MagyarViking

            “He’s gone beserk”

            Must have some Vikinga blood in him

          • It’s not a particularly promising sign for him if he wants “to wage a war against Orbán” successfully . 😀

          • MagyarViking

            “the guy lost all credibility when he call Orbi ‘geci'”

            Well, I thought he lost all credibility when he invested heavily in Fidesz and expected a payback, which now seem toi have stopped, since a year or so

            Not everyone can be a marvel of political correctnes as ‘PutinPutaleto’…
            So what is your translation?
            https://twitter.com/aqbyrne/status/563740602949701632

          • justasking

            ‘So what is your translation?’

            Does it really matter? I got the message on what Lajos thinks of Orbi…did you?

      • imri

        Ha ha ha. Leto, of all people, trying to tell us what integrity is. What next? Perhaps a lecture from József Balogh on feminism?

        • You certainly don’t know what that means, you libnazi scum.

          • imri

            Well, your mental development pretty obviously stopped, tragically, at some point early on in high school. So how would you know?

    • MagyarViking

      “Playing tit for tat is not journalism”

      Given that Magyar Nemzet, MNO, HírTV and Lánchíd radio hardly can be confused with “journalism” it is a good question who will notice the difference from a professional point of view

      During Gyurcsany’s reign as PM, this media run every month an exclusive story about the infighting in MSZP and how it soon will force Gyurcsany to resign…in the end of course they were right, if now Gyurcsany just did not got tired and did not want to lose the election the year after…but it was not due to their professional journalism

      • justasking

        Doesn’t matter…the way Lajos ran off his mouth, had people quit on him so publically, stuck with Orbi for umpteen years getting fat off perks…puts Lajos on the defence, not Orban.

        • Varga

          I think you are assuming that the journalists quit because they didn’t want to wage war against the government? I think they quit because they didn’t want to take the personal risks associated with that. I think they may have quit out of fear.

          • justasking

            Who cares either way? Looks worse for Lajos, than it does for Viki.

          • Varga

            In your opinion. But then again, neither of our opinions matter when it really comes down to it. You will see it that way because you want to.

        • MagyarViking

          “had people quit on him so publically”

          It will make wonders for his business then before allegiance to Fidesz was the big career factor, now there will be openings for clever editors with a push, IF he let them take the chance

          “Simicska told Atlatszo.hu he would personally lead HirTV and would appoint new editors to the other media”
          http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/06/us-hungary-orban-idUSKBN0LA29U20150206

          And the audience will be interested in what is happening and where is better to get it, than straight from the horse’s mouth?

          He has 3 months max to show that he can master this situation and why not? He is obviously not stupid to come to the position he has, so…

          • justasking

            ‘And the audience will be interested in what is happening and where is better to get it, than straight from the horse’s mouth?’

            Where I come from, you don’t let emotions get in the way of an attack…it’s not personal, it’s business. Simicska, made it personal and showed his cards, dumb move.

            Now he’s gotta back peddle and show how Orbi is bad in all of this, conveniently forgetting, that he himself, was right by Orban side for the ride.

        • gavroche

          using the word “publically” l really believe that your first language is or was mandarin.

          • justasking

            Exactly…publically VS privately.

            —————–

            ‘l really believe that your first language is or was mandarin’

            Is or was? Is it possible to switch ones ‘first’ language?

    • Varga

      I think you should look at the whole history here, Viki is targeting Simicska like he did RTL, because he resigned from the party, and of course his arrogance allows him to think Simicska is going to cave and tow the party line still to avoid further targeting. I think Simicska should spill all the mafia secrets, and take whatever personal consequences come from his own participation in the mafia, then let us rebuild. It would be the most patriotic thing to do.

      • justasking

        I think you should look at the whole picture here….Simicska fucked up, and I doubt be able to gather enough steam because of that to do any damage without making himself look worse.

        ————-

        ‘It would be the most patriotic thing to do.’

        I’m sure he’ll get right on that….

        • Varga

          You see it as he fucked up because you think he should have towed the party line. I see it as he is outing Fidesz for their unethical and illegal practices.

          • justasking

            ‘You see it as he fucked up because you think he should have towed the party line’

            Is it a case of English not being your first language (misunderstanding my posts) or you just trying to be provocative?

          • gavroche

            may i know which is your first language?

          • justasking

            Mandarin…

          • Varga

            Just calling a spade a spade, no need to get so defensive. If you don’t want to be engaged, then just send private emails to Leto instead of commenting on a public forum.

          • justasking

            See that’s the difference…you call a spade a spade, and I call a spade a shovel.

          • Varga

            good for you!

          • justasking

            You didn’t get that one did you?

          • Varga

            It didn’t interest me enough, you weren’t witty enough.

          • justasking

            Obviously nothings ‘enough’ for you…also code for ..huh!

          • gavroche

            and is english your first language or what?

  • MagyarViking

    “Simicska told Atlatszo.hu he would personally lead HirTV and would appoint new editors to the other media”
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/06/us-hungary-orban-idUSKBN0LA29U20150206

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