June 12th, 2017

Associates of ruling party seen increasingly turning to “thugs” to settle disputes

Governing Fidesz party has a history of solving certain “sensitive” issues via the services of thug-like enforcers, writes nepszava.hu. Several of these thugs are linked to Fidesz’s deputy leader Gábor Kubatov and the security firm of Ferencvárosi Torna Club (FTC), a popular Budapest sports club, of which he is currently the chairman of. The thugs were most recently deployed to settle a property dispute involving the Ukrainian father of former girlfriend of Árpád Habony, the prime minister’s special adviser.

It appears that the crew of Fradi Security did the bidding of Ukrainian billionaire Eduard Usikov a couple of weeks ago, when about 40 of them occupied the Godunov restaurant in Budapest’s inner city so that the tenant could be removed from the premises. Eyewitnesses spotted Csaba Tóth, FTC’s former security chief, coordinating the bouncers. Tóth has become infamous for his involvement in the assaults against activists protesting the construction of a museum quarter in Budapest’s City Park.

Népszava also wrote a rundown of the most notable cases when “Kubatov’s Boys” were called upon by Fidesz, sometimes instead asking for the assistance of the police. The first major incident took place on 2013 March 7, when mostly student activists climbed into the courtyard of Fidesz’s Lendvay street headquarters in protest of the latest amendment to the basic law of 2011. Instead of calling the police, Fidesz ordered some bouncers to seize and remove the activists from the premises. The security personnel were led by Ferenc Szabó, the former “supporter coordinator” of Fradi Security, who previously did 10 years in prison for murder.

Three weeks later a security firm including an FTC bouncer evicted the Sirály (Seagull) community club from Király street in Budapest’s District VI. This was seen by many as retaliation for the attempt to occupy Fidesz’s headquarters, as Sirály often handed support for civil groups opposing the Orbán government, and held events for Hallgatói Hálózat (The Students’ Network), who organized demonstrations at the time.

On 2013 August 20 an elderly woman was hit in the face by the leader of a group of shaven-headed thugs who prevented a group of counter-demonstrators from entering the official St. Stephen’s Day celebration of Fidesz mayor Máté Kocsis.

The most infamous incident took place on February 23, 2016, when about 20 of Fradi Security’s bouncers blocked the entrance of the National Election Office to prevent a Socialist lawmaker from submitting a referendum question for abolishing the restrictions on Sunday shopping. Although the police idly stood by and later dropped the investigation of the case, it turned out that all of the bouncers had a criminal record, for example of assaulting children, mayhem, drug trafficking, and so on.

Last but not least, two incidents related to Liget Project in Budapest’s City Park. Csaba Tóth and his crew forcefully removed civil activists from a construction site on 2016 July 9. Tóth can be seen yelling at police officers on video recordings of the incidents, while the bouncers managed to break a finger of Márton Gulyás, one of the leaders of the activists. The police ordered investigation for truculence and attempted mayhem against the bouncers after they assaulted activists on a construction site of a venue of at Aquatic World Championship this year on May 19.

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  • Yes, like Putin’s Russia and Ceaușescu’s Romania…

    • wolfi

      Isn’t the whole Fidesz a gang of thugs – or better said:
      mentally challenged freaks of physical force?
      I remember 2006, the tv building etc …
      Just looking at their representatives”leaders” gives me the creeps.

      PS:
      The latest Hazai Pálya, the Jobbik paper we got today has a series of “nice” pictures of some of these brutes – never thought that Jobbik might look positive in comparison!

    • Havelaar

      Dear Viking, I read your comments all the time, I like them a lot. There is a big BUT though. I think you are naive.

      Islam and our liberal societies don’t make a good match. I have never seen any so called moderate Mulsim wishing a nice day, a good weekend, etc. to the workers in our supermarkets in my country for example, and I paid attention. Apparently it is not allowed by their idiot religion.

      • roderickbeck

        You are plain silly. You talk like a bigot. And you are a bigot.

        • Havelaar

          Sorry, be precise, what part of my comment you do not agree with?
          You support Sharia law?
          I should be comfortable with so called Moderate Muslims insulting my wife and daughter all te time?

          • roderickbeck

            I have a Moslem friend and she does not support Sharia law. Also the London Mayor is also a Moslem. How do you fit those discordant facts into your bigoted world view?

            PS: Very few American or British or European Moslems support Sharia law. In fact, virtually no

          • Havelaar

            “I have a Moslem friend ”

            Great, one exception out of millions to the obvious rule.

            PS: Very few American or British or European Moslems support Sharia law. In fact, virtually no.

            Muslims you mean, you just made a big fat lie.

          • roderickbeck

            No, you did. Since you don’t know my mind, claiming its lie shows your lack of intellectual good faith. Show us a survey that indicates a majority of Muslims in America or Europe want Sharia law. You are like Trump – long on assertions – just on facts.

          • Havelaar

            Facts

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

            Read and learn.

            Just like Nazism started with Hitler’s vision, the Islamic vision is a caliphate – a society ruled by Sharia law – in which women who have sex before marriage are stoned to death, homosexuals are beaten, and apostates like me are killed. Sharia law is as inimical to liberal democracy as Nazism…. Violence is inherent in Islam – it’s a destructive, nihilistic cult of death. It legitimates murder.

          • roderickbeck

            You mean slavery in the old testament or sacrificing your only son to an angry god? You make me laugh. The Old Testament is all about Jewish tribes to justify domination. As I recollect Christianity spent about 1500 years indulging in slavery, killing adherents of other religions, pillaging, forced conversion, and pretty everything of which you accuse Muslims. I suppose you forgot about the Crusades and 19th century colonialism.

            In fact, it would be appear that many right wing Hungarians are secret admirers of Sharia law. After all, they resisted making wife beating a criminal category. And there are virtually no Hungarian women in positions of power in right wing circles or the companies they control.

            You protest too much and insincerity shows.

          • Havelaar

            Are you a racist? You think she deserves to be attacked by so called moderate muslims or political correct stupidos like you for telling you the truth?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

            Working with writer and director Theo van Gogh, Hirsi Ali wrote the script and provided the voice-over for Submission (2004), a short film that criticised the treatment of women in Islamic society. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a4af5773785302a8dd27f1f04ede3569631d64a2f12d585ec2abed16e544deed.jpg

          • roderickbeck

            You are still stupid. Most Dutch Muslims do not support or practice Sharia law or condone or commit acts of violence. In fact, the mayor of Rotterdam is a Muslim. It is a good bet he is well within the Dutch mainstream. The reality is like all right wingers you love to hate. You love to circle the wagon and demonize outsiders. Just like the Hungarians did to the Jews in the 20s and 30s. So take your bullshit and shove back up your ass (I am sure you love that sensation).

          • Havelaar

            You silly
            Go on and attack me all the time. I am a hell of a lot more informed concerning the disgusting hypocrisy of so called moderate muslims and collaborators like you.

          • roderickbeck

            I am not attacking. It is just a fact that you are a bigot who uses transparently deceptive rhetorical tricks and flimsy online journals to support your position.

            You are a collaborator with Hungarian autocracy. For which there can be no apology or redemption.

          • Havelaar

            Any concern about her safety?
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

            Hirsi Ali has been a vocal critic of Islam, calling for a reformation of the religion. In 2004, she collaborated on a short movie with Theo van Gogh, entitled Submission, a film about the oppression of women under Islam. The film sparked controversy, which resulted in death threats against the two and the eventual murder of Van Gogh later that year by Mohammed Bouyeri, a second-generation migrant from Morocco. Tunku Varadarajan wrote in 2017 that, with “multiple fatwas on her head, Hirsi Ali has a greater chance of meeting a violent end than anyone I’ve met, Salman Rushdie included.”

          • roderickbeck

            You don’t condemn a billion people based on their religious affiliation – which is exactly what you have done. How well has Christian Europe fared the last thousand years, Mr. Havelaar? How much terror and blood have spilled in the name of your European Christian God? Did the Muslims wage WWI? WWII? No, those wars and tragedies were “Made in Europe” by Your Christian Brothers and Sisters. Only a moron condemns a billion people based on the actions of a tiny fraction. People are to be judged on the basis of their actions, not nominal religious affiliations. Your logic is no different than that of a racist or anti-semite.

          • Havelaar

            And?

            Any concern about her safety?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

          • Havelaar

            “You are a collaborator with Hungarian autocracy.”

            And Another BIG fat lie. You look so stupid.

          • Havelaar

            You silly
            Go on and attack me all the time. I am a hell of a lot more informed concerning the disgusting hypocrisy of so called moderate muslims and collaborators like you.

          • Havelaar

            “In fact, the mayor of Rotterdam is a Muslim. It is a good bet he is well within the Dutch mainstream”.

            Are you so stupid?

            Your Hero? Another example of stupid collaborators like you supporting so called moderate Muslims.

            http://www.ad.nl/rotterdam/celstraf-geeist-tegen-zus-aboutaleb-wegens-verduistering-63-000-euro~ac24ca3b/

            One sister commits suicide because of the pressure from his community not to adjust to Dutch values, other sister is jailed, and he forbids his children to marry a Christian.

            Lunatic.

          • roderickbeck

            No, you are a lunatic. If I belong to a Church and the pastor is revealed to be a pedophile, that says nothing about me. You are a just bigot who tries to tarnish people by association. You really think given Europe’s history it is in position to lecture? Pleassssssssssssssssssssse!

          • Havelaar

            Before you leave this earth, which we all will, sooner or later, can you for once make up your mind? Who do you support? Those critics of Islam, the new nazi ideology, looking to destroy our liberal societies, and those critical heros need to be protected 24 ours a day, for the rest of their lives?

            Or those so called moderate Muslims who never expressed any regret that Theo van Gogh was killed and Ayaan was threatened to face the same, by nearly All of the muslim society in our country?

            You are a traitor of our way of living.

          • roderickbeck
        • Havelaar

          Go on and attack me all the time. I am a hell of a lot more informed concerning the disgusting hypocrisy of so called moderate muslims and collaborators like you.

      • Polle

        That can’t be written by the real Havelaar.

        There are lot of moderate Muslims, but you wont notice them because they just blend in with the rest of the society and live a normal life.
        I have often been wished a good day by Muslims working in shops and offices.
        A lot of people with Muslim background have a very relaxed relation with their religion and never visit a mosque and don’t pray five times a day, but study, work and enjoy life as most other people.

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